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Need to wire a Toft ATB24 console

I need to wire a studio and buy a patchbay. Here's the set up:
Lynx Aurora 16
Toft ATB24 console
Various preamps (more pre's than inputs!)
Toft has many I/O's
Recommendations for style of patchbay?
Thanks,
Michael

Hey Michael,
In general a solder-type patchbay cost less than other types. However, they take more time to setup. Also something to think about is when change is needed in your studio a few years from now, the solder type patchbays are not that fun to change.
Punch down style patchbays cost more but are quick to hook up and very easy to change down the road.
The patchbays with E3 connectors are easy to setup. The best thing about that type patchbay is the E3 connector can be quickly unplugged for a move or change.
A custom wired patchbay arrives ready to plug in but cost the most.

I will need a little more info from you. Can you supply more data?

Bob

Michael:
I think I need to send a diagram of what we'd like so that we don't make a mistake in what we buy.


On Tue, July 15, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Bob Hickey wrote:

hey Michael,

After seeing you layout and thinking about your studio, I would suggest the Digital ADC 96 point patchbays:

The DAB3-14MKIVHN is a Half-Normal two rack unit, 3.5-inch, 96 Point TT Bantam Digital Audio Patchbay with QCP MKIV termination for easy punch down hook-up and normals-strapped audio normalling. ADC Pro Patch digital audio patchbays use the same durable enclosures and jacks as analog audio patchbays, but they are wired with precision 110 Ohm, low-capacitance, shielded twisted-pair cabling. This meets stringent AES digital audio standards and ensures against impedance mismatches that can cause bit errors. Solder-free internal wiring provides high reliability, much higher than soldered systems. High-quality longframe WECO jacks with self-cleaning wiping action - Superior reliability -Punchdown system with split cylinders for gastight connections - Quick and easy termination - Epoxy powder-coated steel chassis - Exceptional protection and durability - Precision 110 Ohm digital cable - Quality transmission for a lifetime of use. List $1,285.00 Mr. Patchbay Price $399.95
http://www.misterpatchbay.com/digital-patchbays/digital-patchbay.html

Here is my layout for your studio sir: 

Top-Row of ADC 96 Point patchbay #1
 
Ch#              Device                     Normal
1               Mic Input              FN direct to console
2               Mic Input              FN direct to console
3               Mic Input              FN direct to console      
4               Mic Input              FN direct to console
5               Mic Input              FN direct to console
6               Mic Input              FN direct to console
7               Mic Input              FN direct to console
8               Mic Input              FN direct to console
9               Mic Input              FN direct to console
10               Mic Input              FN direct to console
11               Mic Input              FN direct to console
12               Mic Input              FN direct to console
13               Mic Input              FN direct to console
14               Mic Input              FN direct to console
15               Mic Input              FN direct to console
16               Mic Input              FN direct to console
17               Mic Input              FN direct to console
18               Mic Input              FN direct to console
19               Mic Input              FN direct to console
20               Mic Input              FN direct to console
21               Mic Input              FN direct to console
22               Mic Input              FN direct to console
23               Mic Input              FN direct to console
24               Mic Input              FN direct to console
 
       Above are the Room #1 Microphone channels 1-24.  These channels are Full-Normal going direct to console. No patch cable need.
 
25          Mic Room #2       NN
26              Mic Room #2       NN
27              Mic Room #2       NN
28              Mic Room #2       NN
29              Mic Room #2       NN
30              Mic Room #2       NN
31              Mic Room #2       NN
32              Mic Room #2       NN
33              Mic Room #2       NN
34              Mic Room #2       NN
35              Mic Room #2       NN
36              Mic Room #2       NN
37              Mic Room #2       NN
38              Mic Room #2       NN
39              Mic Room #2       NN
40              Mic Room #2       NN
Above are the Room #2 Microphone channels 25-40.  These channels have No-Normals. A patch cable is needed for the above mics to reach the console.
 
 
41 MULT #1
42 MULT #1
43 MULT #1
44 MULT #1
45 MULT #2
46 MULT #2
47 MULT #2
48 MULT #2
 
Bottom-Row of ADC 96 Point patchbay #1
 
Ch#              Device                     Normal
49 Console In #1                     FN from mic input
50 Console In #2                     FN from mic input
51 Console In #3                     FN from mic input
52 Console In #4                     FN from mic input
53 Console In #5                     FN from mic input
54 Console In #6                     FN from mic input
55 Console In #7                     FN from mic input
56 Console In #8                     FN from mic input
57 Console In #9                     FN from mic input
58 Console In #10              FN from mic input
59 Console In #11              FN from mic input
60 Console In #12              FN from mic input
61 Console In #13              FN from mic input
62 Console In #14              FN from mic input
63 Console In #15              FN from mic input
64 Console In #16              FN from mic input
65 Console In #17              FN from mic input
66 Console In #18              FN from mic input
67 Console In #19              FN from mic input
68 Console In #20              FN from mic input
69 Console In #21              FN from mic input
70 Console In #22              FN from mic input
71 Console In #23              FN from mic input
72 Console In #24              FN from mic input
73 Console Direct Out 1       FN to AD/DA Converter
74 Console Direct Out 2        FN to AD/DA Converter      
75 Console Direct Out 3        FN to AD/DA Converter
76 Console Direct Out 4        FN to AD/DA Converter
77 Console Direct Out 5        FN to AD/DA Converter
78 Console Direct Out 6        FN to AD/DA Converter
79 Console Direct Out 7        FN to AD/DA Converter
80 Console Direct Out 8        FN to AD/DA Converter
81 Console Direct Out 9        FN to AD/DA Converter
82 Console Direct Out 10        FN to AD/DA Converter
83 Console Direct Out 11        FN to AD/DA Converter
84 Console Direct Out 12        FN to AD/DA Converter
85 Console Direct Out 13        FN to AD/DA Converter
86 Console Direct Out 14        FN to AD/DA Converter
87 Console Direct Out 15        FN to AD/DA Converter
88 Console Direct Out 16        FN to AD/DA Converter
89 Console Direct Out 17        FN to AD/DA Converter
90 Console Direct Out 18        FN to AD/DA Converter
91 Console Direct Out 19        FN to AD/DA Converter
92 Console Direct Out 20        FN to AD/DA Converter
93 Console Direct Out 21        FN to AD/DA Converter
94 Console Direct Out 22        FN to AD/DA Converter
95 Console Direct Out 23        FN to AD/DA Converter
96 Console Direct Out 24        FN to AD/DA Converter
 
Top-Row of ADC 96 Point patchbay #2
 
Ch#              Device                     Normal
1 Insert Send ch#1              FN
2 Insert Send ch#2              FN
3 Insert Send ch#3              FN
4 Insert Send ch#4              FN
5 Insert Send ch#5              FN
6 Insert Send ch#6              FN
7 Insert Send ch#7              FN
8 Insert Send ch#8              FN
9 Insert Send ch#9              FN
10 Insert Send ch#10              FN
11 Insert Send ch#11              FN
12 Insert Send ch#12              FN
13 Insert Send ch#13              FN
14 Insert Send ch#14              FN
15 Insert Send ch#15              FN
16 Insert Send ch#16              FN
17 Insert Send ch#17              FN
18 Insert Send ch#18              FN
19 Insert Send ch#19              FN
20 Insert Send ch#20              FN
21 Insert Send ch#21              FN
22 Insert Send ch#22              FN
23 Insert Send ch#23              FN
24 Insert Send ch#24              FN
25 Outboard Device 1 in
26 Outboard Device 2 in
27 Outboard Device 3 in
28 Outboard Device 4 in
29 Outboard Device 5 in
30 Outboard Device 6 in
31 Outboard Device 7 in
32 Outboard Device 8 in
33 Outboard Device 9 in
34 Outboard Device 10 in
35 Outboard Device 11 in
36 Outboard Device 12 in
37 Outboard Device 13 in
38 Outboard Device 14 in
39 Outboard Device 15 in
40 Outboard Device 16 in
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
 
Bottom-Row of ADC 96 Point patchbay #2
Ch#              Device                     Normal
49 Insert Return ch #1              FN
50 Insert Return ch #2              FN
51 Insert Return ch #3              FN
52 Insert Return ch #4              FN
53 Insert Return ch #5              FN
54 Insert Return ch #6              FN
55 Insert Return ch #7              FN
56 Insert Return ch #8              FN
57 Insert Return ch #9              FN
58 Insert Return ch #10       FN
59 Insert Return ch #11       FN
60 Insert Return ch #12       FN
61 Insert Return ch #13       FN
62 Insert Return ch #14       FN
63 Insert Return ch #15       FN
64 Insert Return ch #16       FN
65 Insert Return ch #17       FN
66 Insert Return ch #18       FN
67 Insert Return ch #19       FN
68 Insert Return ch #20       FN
69 Insert Return ch #21       FN
70 Insert Return ch #22       FN
71 Insert Return ch #23       FN
72 Insert Return ch #24       FN
73 Outboard Device Output 1
74 Outboard Device Output 2
75 Outboard Device Output 3
76 Outboard Device Output 4
77 Outboard Device Output 5
78 Outboard Device Output 6
79 Outboard Device Output 7
80 Outboard Device Output 8
81 Outboard Device Output 9
82 Outboard Device Output 10
83 Outboard Device Output 11
84 Outboard Device Output 12
85 Outboard Device Output 13
86 Outboard Device Output 14
87 Outboard Device Output 15
88 Outboard Device Output 16
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
Great! we are prioritizing specifically what we will need... since we talked I purchased another 16 channels of AD/DA conversion and we will work that into the configuration. Our studio build out is progressing and we will be ordering the patchbays within a month.
Thanks!!!
Michael

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